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Larch S3 is on the standard HamWAN S3 channel, 5880 MHz
by David Haworth 07 Aug '18

07 Aug '18

Dose that mean the RB911G-5HPnD-QRT-US (USA) and RB911G-5HPnD-QRT (International) will not work for Larch? RB911G-5HPnD-QRT-US (USA) is factory locked for 5170-5250MHz and 5725-5835MHz frequencies. This lock can not be removed. RB911G-5HPnD-QRT (International) supports 5150MHz-5875MHz range (Specific frequency range can be limited by country regulations). https://mikrotik.com/product/RB911G-5HPnD-QRT <https://mikrotik.com/product/RB911G-5HPnD-QRT> 73 David WA9ONY

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Client hardware questions
by B.J. Guillot 05 Aug '18

05 Aug '18

Hello all. I'm interested in setting up a HamWAN client for experimentation purposes, but have been running into issues acquiring compatible hardware. I placed an order with Streakwave for a MicroTik RB911G-5HPnD-QRT international model, but it seems to be back-ordered with no ETA. The sales rep recommended RB911G-5HPacD-QRT instead. The specs seem similar with the added benefit of 802.11ac support, but I read something on the HamWAN site indicating that the models supporting "ac" don't support the needed 5 or 10 MHz channels needed. But, then I read something else indicating that the newer QCA9892 wireless chip does in fact support 5 or 10 MHz channels for the 802.11 a/n and it might work. Can anyone confirm if RB911G-5HPacD-QRT would be OK? The other items she recommended were RBSXTsq5HPnD and RB912UAG-5HPnD. The latter appears on the HamWAN website, but it sounds like it might be overkill for my application. My house is in Marysville WA (near Lake Stevens WA). I'm not sure that I have a good line of sight from my house to Paine Field, so it's mostly for experimentation. I can see portions of the Port of Everett from my house, so I might be able to see Providence hospital a little higher up--but I don't think they have a sector there, just a client. Also, a general question about supported frequencies. The HamWAN page mentions "5.9 GHz", but when looking through the MicroTik technical specs documents for many of their models, they quote thing like: - RB911G-5HPnD-QRT-US (USA) is factory locked for 5170-5250MHz and 5725-5835MHz frequencies. This lock can not be removed. - RB911G-5HPnD-QRT (International) supports 5150MHz-5875MHz range (Specific frequency range can be limited by country regulations) Is the 5875 MHz upper limit (versus 5835 MHz) what is being referred to as "5.9 GHz"? Sorry for the long message. Regards, B.J. Guillot KI7ZDF

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Thanks From RAMROD / RFID Team
by Randy Neals 29 Jul '18

29 Jul '18

Tom, Casey & HamWAN, A quick note to thank HamWAN and all others that had a hand in the Crystal HamWAN Sector installation, as well as general support of the HamWAN backbone. We very successfully used the new sector at Crystal Mountain to support RAMROD Cycling Event operations in Cayuse Pass yesterday. Cayuse Pass is, as the name suggests, a pass between various mountains in Mt Ranier National Park/Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest. I generally has no cell coverage, and until this year, RAMROD used Winlink over HF to move data. The connection required an intermediate node at Sunrise Point, which then had line of sight down a slot in the rock to Cayuse Pass. We used DynaDish5's for all 3 radios. We achieved about 3Mbps up and 3Mpbs down. We ran the following applications over the network at Cayuse. 1. Reporting rider RFID data back to the RAMROD Ops Center/computing system. 2. VoIP phones between Cayuse and the RAMROD Ops Center. 3. Live HD video stream of Cayuse Pass operations which was used in the Ops Center. Obviously moving from 300 bps over HF to 3 million bps afforded some additional applications which were well received by RAMROD organizers. Here's a map of the RAMROD course. http://redmondcyclingclub.org/images/ramrod_coursemap_inspiration.jpg Thanks, Randy, W3RWN

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Mikrotik international versions from Baltic Networks
by Tom Hayward 29 Jul '18

29 Jul '18

I heard from another ham that they were able to buy international versions of Ubiquiti products from Baltic Networks no questions asked. It looks like they stock many Mikrotik international versions too. I've been happy with Baltic Networks the few times I've purchased from them and this could be a good source for others looking to purchase international versions for HamWAN use. https://www.balticnetworks.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=mikrotik%20intl Tom KD7LXL

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Path to Lookout
by Mark Weisenfeld 29 Jul '18

29 Jul '18

> > Ohh, didn't see that suggestion. Looks a pretty easy hop. Here you go. > I just go here and do a little creative summary. http://www.heywhatsthat.com/profiler.html > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* PSDR <psdr-bounces(a)hamwan.org> on behalf of Kenny Richards < > richark(a)gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2018 12:55:00 PM > *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring > *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12 > > We need a relay site on Mt. Constitution, would make these shots so much > easier.... > > Kenny > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:24 PM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Mark, is that for Haystack? Can you do another for Lookout? >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark >> Weisenfeld >> *Sent:* 25 July 2018 12:19 >> *To:* psdr(a)hamwan.org >> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12 >> >> >> >> Would be interesting. Lots of open water over that curvature. >> >> >> >> >> [image: image.png] ****************************************** Mark Weisenfeld K7TUM CN87na <http://www.levinecentral.com/ham/grid_square.php?Grid=CN87na> (SW corner) **************************

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12
by Mark Weisenfeld 26 Jul '18

26 Jul '18

Would be interesting. Lots of open water over that curvature. [image: image.png] On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM <psdr-request(a)hamwan.org> wrote: > Send PSDR mailing list submissions to > psdr(a)hamwan.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psdr-request(a)hamwan.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > psdr-owner(a)hamwan.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PSDR digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [BCWARN] Mt Brenton (Steven Bradshaw) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> > To: "'Puget Sound Data Ring'" <psdr(a)hamwan.org>, "'BC Wireless Amateur > Radio Network Discussion List'" <bcwarn(a)bcwarn.net> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:18:02 -0700 > Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] [BCWARN] Mt Brenton > > Roger that! > > > > Steve VE7CBH > > > > *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Procyk > *Sent:* 23 July 2018 19:08 > *To:* BC Wireless Amateur Radio Network Discussion List <bcwarn(a)bcwarn.net > > > *Cc:* psdr(a)hamwan.org > *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] [BCWARN] Mt Brenton > > > > That was probably me presenting back then. In any case, if there is > interest in trying to light up this rather long path feel free. We have > more than enough problems keeping the 50km links over the straight up... > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:49 AM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Good morning Tom > > > > I will send this note to the BCWARN admin team. CVARS is now active with > BCWARN as a ‘client’ being as we are the end of the link for now. A > presentation in 2010 written by Duncan Meakins and a YouTube by one you > members both expressed a desire to connect. I am not sure if the fine > print both with FCC and ISED will allow this link but it I think that > peering the two networks would be a very good thing. It could give > Triangle a redundant path etc. > > > > Anyway, off to work > > Steve VE7CBH > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom Hayward > *Sent:* 22 July 2018 21:51 > *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> > *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Mt Brenton > > > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 8:08 PM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Good evening all > > > > My name is Steve, VE7CBH. I have been lurking on this list for some time > now waiting for the right opportunity to further things along. What I was > waiting for was the link from Mt Brenton VE7RNA repeater site just west of > Chemainus BC to the BCWARN system. That link has now been commissioned. > https://www.bcwarn.net/intermapper/rf-map.html > > > > Mt Brenton is at 4000 feet, and has a shot into WA. Haystack @ ~140KM is > a possibility. Is there any interest to pursue this link? > > > > Steve de VE7CBH > > Hi Steve, > > > > I wasn't sure what this had to do with Larch Mountain, so I changed the > subject. I hope you don't mind. > > > > 140 km would be quite the shot for 5 GHz! > > > > We are planning to install at Lookout Mountain very soon. That shot would > only be 112 km--a lot, but a little more realistic. Let's see if we can > pull that off. > > > > Are you active with BCWARN? What sort of peering arrangement is desired > with HamWAN? It would be nice for our respective EOCs to be able to > communicate via the microwave path. > > > > Tom KD7LXL > > _______________________________________________ > BCWARN mailing list > BCWARN(a)bcwarn.net > http://mailman.bcwarn.net/mailman/listinfo/bcwarn > > _______________________________________________ > PSDR mailing list > PSDR(a)hamwan.org > http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr > -- ****************************************** Mark Weisenfeld (Yes, the brother of Elizabeth) **************************

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Re: [HamWAN PSDR] [BCWARN] Mt Brenton
by Ian Procyk 24 Jul '18

24 Jul '18

That was probably me presenting back then. In any case, if there is interest in trying to light up this rather long path feel free. We have more than enough problems keeping the 50km links over the straight up... On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:49 AM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Good morning Tom > > > > I will send this note to the BCWARN admin team. CVARS is now active with > BCWARN as a ‘client’ being as we are the end of the link for now. A > presentation in 2010 written by Duncan Meakins and a YouTube by one you > members both expressed a desire to connect. I am not sure if the fine > print both with FCC and ISED will allow this link but it I think that > peering the two networks would be a very good thing. It could give > Triangle a redundant path etc. > > > > Anyway, off to work > > Steve VE7CBH > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom Hayward > *Sent:* 22 July 2018 21:51 > *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr(a)hamwan.org> > *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Mt Brenton > > > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 8:08 PM Steven Bradshaw <ve7cbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Good evening all > > > > My name is Steve, VE7CBH. I have been lurking on this list for some time > now waiting for the right opportunity to further things along. What I was > waiting for was the link from Mt Brenton VE7RNA repeater site just west of > Chemainus BC to the BCWARN system. That link has now been commissioned. > https://www.bcwarn.net/intermapper/rf-map.html > > > > Mt Brenton is at 4000 feet, and has a shot into WA. Haystack @ ~140KM is > a possibility. Is there any interest to pursue this link? > > > > Steve de VE7CBH > > Hi Steve, > > > > I wasn't sure what this had to do with Larch Mountain, so I changed the > subject. I hope you don't mind. > > > > 140 km would be quite the shot for 5 GHz! > > > > We are planning to install at Lookout Mountain very soon. That shot would > only be 112 km--a lot, but a little more realistic. Let's see if we can > pull that off. > > > > Are you active with BCWARN? What sort of peering arrangement is desired > with HamWAN? It would be nice for our respective EOCs to be able to > communicate via the microwave path. > > > > Tom KD7LXL > _______________________________________________ > BCWARN mailing list > BCWARN(a)bcwarn.net > http://mailman.bcwarn.net/mailman/listinfo/bcwarn >

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Larch Mountain Sector
by Scott J. Burrows 23 Jul '18

23 Jul '18

Hello. I attempted to connect my MikroTik RB LHG-5nD to the Larch Mountain this morning. I purchased the "International" version of the modem. I followed the Client Node Configuration directions listed on the HamWAN webpage, with no reported errors. The modem would not detect any HamWAN sectors. Will the currently published Client Node Configuration online work for Larch Mountain? Are there any additional configuration settings needed specifically for Larch Mountain? I hope to document all of the configuration and setup procedures to help other ham radio operators in Vancouver, WA and Portland, OR region. Thanks Scott, N7DOD --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/

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City of Kirkland
by Joshua Saran 17 Jul '18

17 Jul '18

Hello everyone, I run the Kirkland ARES team and want to look into adding HamWan to the rooftop at city hall. I’d like to get some more information on what is needed and costs before I present it to the city. Is there anyone willing to help me out? Thank you! 73s - Josh Saran - N7WPM

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Local Rings vs System Ring
by Jamie Hughes 15 Jul '18

15 Jul '18

Good afternoon, Since there is some chatter about support emergency communications stuff, I'd like to ask some questions as well. Would it make sense to build a small "private" ring that then has a few connection points to a few "cell" sites? IN other words, create a private ring, between all the locations my team needs, and then at a few of those sites, hoping on to the Ham Wan. The goal would be to use all HAM WAN Routing, but remaining in the local ring unless we needed to route externally. Thanks, Jamie Hughes WA7JH

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