VOTE: $420 for a new Baldi UPS
Hello, We've known for a few months now that the UPS @ Baldi is bad. It eats batteries at a high rate, so we don't wanna just buy another battery pack for it. We also know that Baldi has many power events, even before this wind storm. One of these outages was of just the right character to deadlock our server up there. We had to physically go on site to reset it. Yes, it locked up the iLO too! Another one of these outages (or surges) caused the death of Baldi-R1's power supply. The site was dead until another physical trip replaced the router and its power supply. The perfect fit for this problem is something called an On-Line UPS. Unlike a normal UPS that kicks in when it senses power is down, an On-Line UPS does continuous AC->DC conversion of incoming power to charge the battery bank, and continuous DC->AC conversion from the battery bank to run the load. Any fast events that might confuse a traditional relay-switching UPS, and allow dirty power to get to the load, are eliminated with the On-Line UPS design, because everything hits the battery bank first. These types of UPSes are slightly more expensive than normal UPSes, but I did some digging to find the best deal here. The physical parts in this spending request are for a Tripp-Lite 2200VA UPS in new condition, a new set of batteries, and a network interface card. I'm hesitant to post links to suppliers since the availability is limited. The cost includes all shipping charges. The real price should be about $408. --Bart
Sounds like a good approach. Did some looking - price you've found is 1/2 to 2/3rds of what is being "retailed" as a used unit - so it sounds like a good find wherever you located it. 2 questions: 1) Is this rack or stand-alone? 2) What's our balance / do we need to raise funds? Cheers, Rob -----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Bart Kus Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:57 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: $420 for a new Baldi UPS Hello, We've known for a few months now that the UPS @ Baldi is bad. It eats batteries at a high rate, so we don't wanna just buy another battery pack for it. We also know that Baldi has many power events, even before this wind storm. One of these outages was of just the right character to deadlock our server up there. We had to physically go on site to reset it. Yes, it locked up the iLO too! Another one of these outages (or surges) caused the death of Baldi-R1's power supply. The site was dead until another physical trip replaced the router and its power supply. The perfect fit for this problem is something called an On-Line UPS. Unlike a normal UPS that kicks in when it senses power is down, an On-Line UPS does continuous AC->DC conversion of incoming power to charge the battery bank, and continuous DC->AC conversion from the battery bank to run the load. Any fast events that might confuse a traditional relay-switching UPS, and allow dirty power to get to the load, are eliminated with the On-Line UPS design, because everything hits the battery bank first. These types of UPSes are slightly more expensive than normal UPSes, but I did some digging to find the best deal here. The physical parts in this spending request are for a Tripp-Lite 2200VA UPS in new condition, a new set of batteries, and a network interface card. I'm hesitant to post links to suppliers since the availability is limited. The cost includes all shipping charges. The real price should be about $408. --Bart _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
It looks like a rack mounted box, if this is the one Bart is looking at.... http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-SMART2200RM2U-Rackmount-Outlets/dp/B002S2KU... Thanks Kenny On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
Sounds like a good approach. Did some looking - price you've found is 1/2 to 2/3rds of what is being "retailed" as a used unit - so it sounds like a good find wherever you located it.
2 questions:
1) Is this rack or stand-alone? 2) What's our balance / do we need to raise funds?
Cheers, Rob
-----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Bart Kus Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:57 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: $420 for a new Baldi UPS
Hello,
We've known for a few months now that the UPS @ Baldi is bad. It eats batteries at a high rate, so we don't wanna just buy another battery pack for it. We also know that Baldi has many power events, even before this wind storm. One of these outages was of just the right character to deadlock our server up there. We had to physically go on site to reset it. Yes, it locked up the iLO too! Another one of these outages (or surges) caused the death of Baldi-R1's power supply. The site was dead until another physical trip replaced the router and its power supply.
The perfect fit for this problem is something called an On-Line UPS. Unlike a normal UPS that kicks in when it senses power is down, an On-Line UPS does continuous AC->DC conversion of incoming power to charge the battery bank, and continuous DC->AC conversion from the battery bank to run the load. Any fast events that might confuse a traditional relay-switching UPS, and allow dirty power to get to the load, are eliminated with the On-Line UPS design, because everything hits the battery bank first. These types of UPSes are slightly more expensive than normal UPSes, but I did some digging to find the best deal here.
The physical parts in this spending request are for a Tripp-Lite 2200VA UPS in new condition, a new set of batteries, and a network interface card. I'm hesitant to post links to suppliers since the availability is limited. The cost includes all shipping charges. The real price should be about $408.
--Bart
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Yup, it's rackmount, although that's not the specific model. The exact model is SU2200RTXL2U, it's spec'd out here: http://www.tripplite.com/shared/product-pages/en/SU2200RTXL2U.pdf . We won't be getting rails with it, which is OK, since Baldi doesn't have a rack that can mount it. The existing UPS just sits on a bench in the cage. Our balance should be sufficient to get this without needing to raise any funds, although I'd need someone from the board to step in and give exact details. --Bart On 11/18/2015 10:32 AM, Kenny Richards wrote:
It looks like a rack mounted box, if this is the one Bart is looking at....
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-SMART2200RM2U-Rackmount-Outlets/dp/B002S2KU...
Thanks Kenny
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com <mailto:rob@nr3o.com>> wrote:
Sounds like a good approach. Did some looking - price you've found is 1/2 to 2/3rds of what is being "retailed" as a used unit - so it sounds like a good find wherever you located it.
2 questions:
1) Is this rack or stand-alone? 2) What's our balance / do we need to raise funds?
Cheers, Rob
-----Original Message----- From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org <mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org>] On Behalf Of Bart Kus Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:57 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: $420 for a new Baldi UPS
Hello,
We've known for a few months now that the UPS @ Baldi is bad. It eats batteries at a high rate, so we don't wanna just buy another battery pack for it. We also know that Baldi has many power events, even before this wind storm. One of these outages was of just the right character to deadlock our server up there. We had to physically go on site to reset it. Yes, it locked up the iLO too! Another one of these outages (or surges) caused the death of Baldi-R1's power supply. The site was dead until another physical trip replaced the router and its power supply.
The perfect fit for this problem is something called an On-Line UPS. Unlike a normal UPS that kicks in when it senses power is down, an On-Line UPS does continuous AC->DC conversion of incoming power to charge the battery bank, and continuous DC->AC conversion from the battery bank to run the load. Any fast events that might confuse a traditional relay-switching UPS, and allow dirty power to get to the load, are eliminated with the On-Line UPS design, because everything hits the battery bank first. These types of UPSes are slightly more expensive than normal UPSes, but I did some digging to find the best deal here.
The physical parts in this spending request are for a Tripp-Lite 2200VA UPS in new condition, a new set of batteries, and a network interface card. I'm hesitant to post links to suppliers since the availability is limited. The cost includes all shipping charges. The real price should be about $408.
--Bart
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On 11/18/15 1:32 PM, Kenny Richards wrote:
It looks like a rack mounted box, if this is the one Bart is looking at....
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-SMART2200RM2U-Rackmount-Outlets/dp/B002S2KU...
The rack mount kit is worth it, but what may be of more interest for you is the SNMP Web Card. This gives an IP interface to it you can graph and know what the status of the UPS is. You also gain the ability to remote power control via it. I may have one around here that's a spare, I'll look. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice 727-214-2508 - Fax http://bryanfields.net
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
The rack mount kit is worth it, but what may be of more interest for you is the SNMP Web Card. This gives an IP interface to it you can graph and know what the status of the UPS is.
You also gain the ability to remote power control via it.
The requested amount includes the price of a network card (sourced separately).
I may have one around here that's a spare, I'll look.
If you've got a spare, that would save us some shopping! Tom
On 11/18/15 2:42 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
The requested amount includes the price of a network card (sourced separately). That's a great price.
I may have one around here that's a spare, I'll look. If you've got a spare, that would save us some shopping! I'll check, probably in the shed, and followed me the last few times Ive moved. Wonder if these things support IPv6 yet :)
-- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice 727-214-2508 - Fax http://bryanfields.net
I think this is a good price, and a good idea to move forward with, I'll be working with the board to get a call scheduled for a vote. Nigel
Hello,
We've known for a few months now that the UPS @ Baldi is bad. It eats batteries at a high rate, so we don't wanna just buy another battery pack for it. We also know that Baldi has many power events, even before this wind storm. One of these outages was of just the right character to deadlock our server up there. We had to physically go on site to reset it. Yes, it locked up the iLO too! Another one of these outages (or surges) caused the death of Baldi-R1's power supply. The site was dead until another physical trip replaced the router and its power supply.
The perfect fit for this problem is something called an On-Line UPS. Unlike a normal UPS that kicks in when it senses power is down, an On-Line UPS does continuous AC->DC conversion of incoming power to charge the battery bank, and continuous DC->AC conversion from the battery bank to run the load. Any fast events that might confuse a traditional relay-switching UPS, and allow dirty power to get to the load, are eliminated with the On-Line UPS design, because everything hits the battery bank first. These types of UPSes are slightly more expensive than normal UPSes, but I did some digging to find the best deal here.
The physical parts in this spending request are for a Tripp-Lite 2200VA UPS in new condition, a new set of batteries, and a network interface card. I'm hesitant to post links to suppliers since the availability is limited. The cost includes all shipping charges. The real price should be about $408.
--Bart
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I also think this is a worthwhile investment. Woohoo. On Nov 18, 2015 22:30, "Nigel Vander Houwen" <nigel@nigelvh.com> wrote:
I think this is a good price, and a good idea to move forward with, I'll be working with the board to get a call scheduled for a vote.
Nigel
Hello,
We've known for a few months now that the UPS @ Baldi is bad. It eats batteries at a high rate, so we don't wanna just buy another battery pack for it. We also know that Baldi has many power events, even before this wind storm. One of these outages was of just the right character to deadlock our server up there. We had to physically go on site to reset it. Yes, it locked up the iLO too! Another one of these outages (or surges) caused the death of Baldi-R1's power supply. The site was dead until another physical trip replaced the router and its power supply.
The perfect fit for this problem is something called an On-Line UPS. Unlike a normal UPS that kicks in when it senses power is down, an On-Line UPS does continuous AC->DC conversion of incoming power to charge the battery bank, and continuous DC->AC conversion from the battery bank to run the load. Any fast events that might confuse a traditional relay-switching UPS, and allow dirty power to get to the load, are eliminated with the On-Line UPS design, because everything hits the battery bank first. These types of UPSes are slightly more expensive than normal UPSes, but I did some digging to find the best deal here.
The physical parts in this spending request are for a Tripp-Lite 2200VA UPS in new condition, a new set of batteries, and a network interface card. I'm hesitant to post links to suppliers since the availability is limited. The cost includes all shipping charges. The real price should be about $408.
--Bart
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participants (7)
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Bart Kus -
Benjamin Krueger -
Bryan Fields -
Kenny Richards -
Nigel Vander Houwen -
Rob Salsgiver -
Tom Hayward