In trying to promote HamWAN (or HamWAN-like) microwave systems around the country, it is helpful to know how widely this type of system has been adopted. Outside of Puget Sound (which includes the Victoria and Clark County extensions) I've found, Memphis, Central Michigan, Lowndes County (GA), Albuquerque, Tampa Bay, Kelowna (BC), and Spokane. Are all these still active? Are there others? Thanks and 73, Steve
Not hamwan, but uses microwaves. https://www.sarnetfl.com/how-it-works.html On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 13:31 Steve - WA7PTM <psdr-list@aberle.net> wrote:
In trying to promote HamWAN (or HamWAN-like) microwave systems around
the country, it is helpful to know how widely this type of system has
been adopted.
Outside of Puget Sound (which includes the Victoria and Clark County
extensions) I've found, Memphis, Central Michigan, Lowndes County (GA),
Albuquerque, Tampa Bay, Kelowna (BC), and Spokane.
Are all these still active?
Are there others?
Thanks and 73,
Steve
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On 9/23/20 1:48 PM, Roger Weiss (K9RJW) wrote:
Not hamwan, but uses microwaves. https://www.sarnetfl.com/how-it-works.html
This is a state network under the Florida Department of Transport on commercial microwave. It should be known that FDOT is hostile to HamWAN in general. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
On 9/23/20 1:31 PM, Steve - WA7PTM wrote:
Tampa Bay
Are all these still active?
Yo. Here and active. Trying to bring on another uplink too. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
We are up and running in Albuquerque NM. Not many takers so far. Conny N5HC
On Sep 23, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Steve - WA7PTM <psdr-list@aberle.net> wrote:
In trying to promote HamWAN (or HamWAN-like) microwave systems around the country, it is helpful to know how widely this type of system has been adopted.
Outside of Puget Sound (which includes the Victoria and Clark County extensions) I've found, Memphis, Central Michigan, Lowndes County (GA), Albuquerque, Tampa Bay, Kelowna (BC), and Spokane.
Are all these still active?
Are there others?
Thanks and 73, Steve _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
While I am not local to the Kelowna, BC system, it is up and active. They added a site this summer in Vernon, BC ~30min north of Kelowna. The Calgary Amateur Radio Association and the I believe the Foothills Amateur Radio Society are doing microwave IP stuff in Calgary. Not sure if it is Hamwan standard compliant or not. CARA even has a 900MHz IP link over 74km using a mountain as a reflector. Kiernan Burr VA6IP
On Sep 23, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Conny Jonsson <n5hc@nmhamwan.net> wrote:
We are up and running in Albuquerque NM.
Not many takers so far.
Conny N5HC
On Sep 23, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Steve - WA7PTM <psdr-list@aberle.net> wrote:
In trying to promote HamWAN (or HamWAN-like) microwave systems around the country, it is helpful to know how widely this type of system has been adopted.
Outside of Puget Sound (which includes the Victoria and Clark County extensions) I've found, Memphis, Central Michigan, Lowndes County (GA), Albuquerque, Tampa Bay, Kelowna (BC), and Spokane.
Are all these still active?
Are there others?
Thanks and 73, Steve _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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Very active in Kelowna, BC. Details at http://hamwan.ca <http://hamwan.ca/> Ian VE7BST
On Sep 23, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Steve - WA7PTM <psdr-list@aberle.net> wrote:
In trying to promote HamWAN (or HamWAN-like) microwave systems around the country, it is helpful to know how widely this type of system has been adopted.
Outside of Puget Sound (which includes the Victoria and Clark County extensions) I've found, Memphis, Central Michigan, Lowndes County (GA), Albuquerque, Tampa Bay, Kelowna (BC), and Spokane.
Are all these still active?
Are there others?
Thanks and 73, Steve _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
I know it's controversial especially amongst the HamWAN founders, but ARDEN (https://www.arednmesh.org) is gaining momentum in many areas. Conceded that a lot of their activity isn't actually over radio (it's a big, messy, VPN), and there's not much of it that's built as fixed infrastructure like HamWAN, but some of it IS being built as infrastructure. And, it's "microwave" (2.x GHz) so that meets your definition. Suggest you query their userbase also. Steve Stroh N8GNJ On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:31 AM Steve - WA7PTM <psdr-list@aberle.net> wrote:
In trying to promote HamWAN (or HamWAN-like) microwave systems around the country, it is helpful to know how widely this type of system has been adopted.
Outside of Puget Sound (which includes the Victoria and Clark County extensions) I've found, Memphis, Central Michigan, Lowndes County (GA), Albuquerque, Tampa Bay, Kelowna (BC), and Spokane.
Are all these still active?
Are there others?
Thanks and 73, Steve _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
-- Steve Stroh (personal / general): stevestroh@gmail.com
On 9/23/20 2:09 PM, Steve Stroh wrote:
Suggest you query their userbase also.
Good luck finding any hams who understand it in their user base. ARDEN is simple and not scalable. It's a solution in search of a problem. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
Thanks all, I'm collecting/updating information as the emails come in. Since AREDN was brought up, the question that comes to mind is ... Does a blended HamWAN (links) and AREDN (sectors and clients) system make sense? One would then have a scalable WAN with and easy-to-use mesh. If someone didn't have a direct shot at a mountain top, they might still be able to connect into the network via a neighbor. 73, Steve Bryan Fields wrote on 9/23/20 11:27 AM:
Good luck finding any hams who understand it in their user base. ARDEN is simple and not scalable. It's a solution in search of a problem.
On 9/23/20 2:58 PM, Steve - WA7PTM wrote:
Thanks all, I'm collecting/updating information as the emails come in.
Since AREDN was brought up, the question that comes to mind is ... Does a blended HamWAN (links) and AREDN (sectors and clients) system make sense? One would then have a scalable WAN with and easy-to-use mesh. If someone didn't have a direct shot at a mountain top, they might still be able to connect into the network via a neighbor.
https://youtu.be/7mAFP_c0B6g?t=1609 Look at the end of that, they struggle to get it talking across the table there due to 2.4 GHz interference. HamWAN can feed ARDEN/Mesh, but it's all through a single access point/NAT gateway. From HamWAN's perspective it's just another client user. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
Memphis is active though we slowed down during the pandemic. We actually just got a new edge with local announcement finally after years of searching and are waiting on the 44net LOA to come. As soon as that’s in, we’ll be migrating our edge over. We had a few slow years but are picking back up now. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 2:03 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
On 9/23/20 2:58 PM, Steve - WA7PTM wrote:
Thanks all, I'm collecting/updating information as the emails come in.
Since AREDN was brought up, the question that comes to mind is ... Does a blended HamWAN (links) and AREDN (sectors and clients) system make sense? One would then have a scalable WAN with and easy-to-use mesh. If someone didn't have a direct shot at a mountain top, they might still be able to connect into the network via a neighbor.
https://youtu.be/7mAFP_c0B6g?t=1609
Look at the end of that, they struggle to get it talking across the table there due to 2.4 GHz interference.
HamWAN can feed ARDEN/Mesh, but it's all through a single access point/NAT gateway. From HamWAN's perspective it's just another client user.
-- Bryan Fields
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We are still active here in Michigan. But the fact that we are losing our 3ghz and 5.9 we will be moving to part15 for the RF. Our 5.9 sectors and client radios are all software changes. But when we lose 3ghz it's going to be costly to replace gear. -- Fredric Moses - W8FSM - WQOG498 fred@moses.bz
On Sep 23, 2020, at 13:31, Steve - WA7PTM <psdr-list@aberle.net> wrote:
In trying to promote HamWAN (or HamWAN-like) microwave systems around the country, it is helpful to know how widely this type of system has been adopted.
Outside of Puget Sound (which includes the Victoria and Clark County extensions) I've found, Memphis, Central Michigan, Lowndes County (GA), Albuquerque, Tampa Bay, Kelowna (BC), and Spokane.
Are all these still active?
Are there others?
Thanks and 73, Steve _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
Tucson had a 2400Mhz system when I left a couple of years ago. I think it is still operational. Bob AF9W
-----Original Message----- From: PSDR <psdr-bounces@hamwan.org> On Behalf Of Steve - WA7PTM Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 10:31 AM To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr@hamwan.org> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] HamWAN Roll Call
In trying to promote HamWAN (or HamWAN-like) microwave systems around the country, it is helpful to know how widely this type of system has been adopted.
Outside of Puget Sound (which includes the Victoria and Clark County extensions) I've found, Memphis, Central Michigan, Lowndes County (GA), Albuquerque, Tampa Bay, Kelowna (BC), and Spokane.
Are all these still active?
Are there others?
Thanks and 73, Steve _______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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