The PTZ camera at ETiger has been unreliable for some time. Rich (KF7BJI) and I were at the site yesterday (2020-08-07),and now I can fill in some of the details. The camera is located about three-quarters of the way up thetower used by the SeaTac Repeater Association. This tower is about 50m awayfrom the ETiger HamWAN site. STRA uses the callsign W7WWI on most of itsrepeaters. The POE power supply and the Cat5 cable up the tower have beendamaged by a lightning strike. The power supply needs to be replaced. The Cat5 cable has water inside the jacket, something that wentunnoticed until the damaged Ethernet connector was cut off. Water dripped out,lots of it. Most of the cable runs tight against the tower, and I speculatethat the outer jacket was punctured by the lightning. I am hoping that the camera itself may still be functional. Despitethe above problems, there were occasions when images could be recovered. If thepower to the camera was disconnected for an hour or so, the camera worked for afew minutes after restart. The repair will involve a tower climb to replace the cable.Unfortunately we will have to open the camera’s sealed enclosure to access thecable end. We hope to have this work done soon. No promises! Rob K7QJ
Rob, Do you know what kind of cable it was? Rob S From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Rob Martin via PSDR Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:36 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] East Tiger – PTZ Camera The PTZ camera at ETiger has been unreliable for some time. Rich (KF7BJI) and I were at the site yesterday (2020-08-07), and now I can fill in some of the details. The camera is located about three-quarters of the way up the tower used by the SeaTac Repeater Association. This tower is about 50m away from the ETiger HamWAN site. STRA uses the callsign W7WWI on most of its repeaters. The POE power supply and the Cat5 cable up the tower have been damaged by a lightning strike. The power supply needs to be replaced. The Cat5 cable has water inside the jacket, something that went unnoticed until the damaged Ethernet connector was cut off. Water dripped out, lots of it. Most of the cable runs tight against the tower, and I speculate that the outer jacket was punctured by the lightning. I am hoping that the camera itself may still be functional. Despite the above problems, there were occasions when images could be recovered. If the power to the camera was disconnected for an hour or so, the camera worked for a few minutes after restart. The repair will involve a tower climb to replace the cable. Unfortunately we will have to open the camera’s sealed enclosure to access the cable end. We hope to have this work done soon. No promises! Rob K7QJ
Just my $0.02 - but if the camera was hit by lightning, it needs to be replaced. It will always be iffy now... Sent via radio waves!
On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
Rob,
Do you know what kind of cable it was?
Rob S
From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Rob Martin via PSDR Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:36 PM To: Puget Sound Data Ring Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] East Tiger – PTZ Camera
The PTZ camera at ETiger has been unreliable for some time.
Rich (KF7BJI) and I were at the site yesterday (2020-08-07), and now I can fill in some of the details.
The camera is located about three-quarters of the way up the tower used by the SeaTac Repeater Association. This tower is about 50m away from the ETiger HamWAN site. STRA uses the callsign W7WWI on most of its repeaters.
The POE power supply and the Cat5 cable up the tower have been damaged by a lightning strike.
The power supply needs to be replaced.
The Cat5 cable has water inside the jacket, something that went unnoticed until the damaged Ethernet connector was cut off. Water dripped out, lots of it. Most of the cable runs tight against the tower, and I speculate that the outer jacket was punctured by the lightning.
I am hoping that the camera itself may still be functional. Despite the above problems, there were occasions when images could be recovered. If the power to the camera was disconnected for an hour or so, the camera worked for a few minutes after restart.
The repair will involve a tower climb to replace the cable. Unfortunately we will have to open the camera’s sealed enclosure to access the cable end.
We hope to have this work done soon. No promises!
Rob K7QJ
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So far, all I have heard is speculation. Lets try and get some facts before making decisions. -Doug- On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 5:59 PM Kenny Richards <richark@gmail.com> wrote:
Just my $0.02 - but if the camera was hit by lightning, it needs to be replaced. It will always be iffy now...
Sent via radio waves!
On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
Rob,
Do you know what kind of cable it was?
Rob S
*From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Rob Martin via PSDR *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:36 PM *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring *Subject:* [HamWAN PSDR] East Tiger – PTZ Camera
The PTZ camera at ETiger has been unreliable for some time.
Rich (KF7BJI) and I were at the site yesterday (2020-08-07), and now I can fill in some of the details.
The camera is located about three-quarters of the way up the tower used by the SeaTac Repeater Association. This tower is about 50m away from the ETiger HamWAN site. STRA uses the callsign W7WWI on most of its repeaters.
The POE power supply and the Cat5 cable up the tower have been damaged by a lightning strike.
The power supply needs to be replaced.
The Cat5 cable has water inside the jacket, something that went unnoticed until the damaged Ethernet connector was cut off. Water dripped out, lots of it. Most of the cable runs tight against the tower, and I speculate that the outer jacket was punctured by the lightning.
I am hoping that the camera itself may still be functional. Despite the above problems, there were occasions when images could be recovered. If the power to the camera was disconnected for an hour or so, the camera worked for a few minutes after restart.
The repair will involve a tower climb to replace the cable. Unfortunately we will have to open the camera’s sealed enclosure to access the cable end.
We hope to have this work done soon. No promises!
Rob K7QJ
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My first thought is, if we know a tower climb is needed to replace the cable, and there is a greater than 0% chance the camera is faulted, why not just replace it. If the cam turns out fine, redeploy it elseware... Just my $0.02cdn On Sat., Aug. 8, 2020, 18:53 Doug Kingston, <dpk@randomnotes.org> wrote:
So far, all I have heard is speculation. Lets try and get some facts before making decisions.
-Doug-
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 5:59 PM Kenny Richards <richark@gmail.com> wrote:
Just my $0.02 - but if the camera was hit by lightning, it needs to be replaced. It will always be iffy now...
Sent via radio waves!
On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
Rob,
Do you know what kind of cable it was?
Rob S
*From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Rob Martin via PSDR *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:36 PM *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring *Subject:* [HamWAN PSDR] East Tiger – PTZ Camera
The PTZ camera at ETiger has been unreliable for some time.
Rich (KF7BJI) and I were at the site yesterday (2020-08-07), and now I can fill in some of the details.
The camera is located about three-quarters of the way up the tower used by the SeaTac Repeater Association. This tower is about 50m away from the ETiger HamWAN site. STRA uses the callsign W7WWI on most of its repeaters.
The POE power supply and the Cat5 cable up the tower have been damaged by a lightning strike.
The power supply needs to be replaced.
The Cat5 cable has water inside the jacket, something that went unnoticed until the damaged Ethernet connector was cut off. Water dripped out, lots of it. Most of the cable runs tight against the tower, and I speculate that the outer jacket was punctured by the lightning.
I am hoping that the camera itself may still be functional. Despite the above problems, there were occasions when images could be recovered. If the power to the camera was disconnected for an hour or so, the camera worked for a few minutes after restart.
The repair will involve a tower climb to replace the cable. Unfortunately we will have to open the camera’s sealed enclosure to access the cable end.
We hope to have this work done soon. No promises!
Rob K7QJ
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Darcy, that is not an unreasonable call at all. We can afford to do that, luckily. We know the cable is bad; that is a fact. -Doug- On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 7:38 PM Darcy Buskermolen <darcyb@gmail.com> wrote:
My first thought is, if we know a tower climb is needed to replace the cable, and there is a greater than 0% chance the camera is faulted, why not just replace it. If the cam turns out fine, redeploy it elseware... Just my $0.02cdn
On Sat., Aug. 8, 2020, 18:53 Doug Kingston, <dpk@randomnotes.org> wrote:
So far, all I have heard is speculation. Lets try and get some facts before making decisions.
-Doug-
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 5:59 PM Kenny Richards <richark@gmail.com> wrote:
Just my $0.02 - but if the camera was hit by lightning, it needs to be replaced. It will always be iffy now...
Sent via radio waves!
On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com> wrote:
Rob,
Do you know what kind of cable it was?
Rob S
*From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Rob Martin via PSDR *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:36 PM *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring *Subject:* [HamWAN PSDR] East Tiger – PTZ Camera
The PTZ camera at ETiger has been unreliable for some time.
Rich (KF7BJI) and I were at the site yesterday (2020-08-07), and now I can fill in some of the details.
The camera is located about three-quarters of the way up the tower used by the SeaTac Repeater Association. This tower is about 50m away from the ETiger HamWAN site. STRA uses the callsign W7WWI on most of its repeaters.
The POE power supply and the Cat5 cable up the tower have been damaged by a lightning strike.
The power supply needs to be replaced.
The Cat5 cable has water inside the jacket, something that went unnoticed until the damaged Ethernet connector was cut off. Water dripped out, lots of it. Most of the cable runs tight against the tower, and I speculate that the outer jacket was punctured by the lightning.
I am hoping that the camera itself may still be functional. Despite the above problems, there were occasions when images could be recovered. If the power to the camera was disconnected for an hour or so, the camera worked for a few minutes after restart.
The repair will involve a tower climb to replace the cable. Unfortunately we will have to open the camera’s sealed enclosure to access the cable end.
We hope to have this work done soon. No promises!
Rob K7QJ
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
_______________________________________________ PSDR mailing list PSDR@hamwan.org http://mail.hamwan.net/mailman/listinfo/psdr
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Rob, You're sending email from not your email address. It's showing as coming from the mailing list address itself. How did you conclude the issue was a lightning strike? Water logged cables can leak water into connectors. Powered RJ45s that are wet undergo electrolysis and corrosion. I'd also like to know what cable + connectors were used for this installation. This camera should have a pigtail that the CAT5 plugs into. Why do you need to open the camera housing? Do you have any pictures of your recent visit? --Bart On 8/8/2020 11:57 PM, Doug Kingston wrote:
Darcy, that is not an unreasonable call at all. We can afford to do that, luckily. We know the cable is bad; that is a fact.
-Doug-
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 7:38 PM Darcy Buskermolen <darcyb@gmail.com <mailto:darcyb@gmail.com>> wrote:
My first thought is, if we know a tower climb is needed to replace the cable, and there is a greater than 0% chance the camera is faulted, why not just replace it. If the cam turns out fine, redeploy it elseware... Just my $0.02cdn
On Sat., Aug. 8, 2020, 18:53 Doug Kingston, <dpk@randomnotes.org <mailto:dpk@randomnotes.org>> wrote:
So far, all I have heard is speculation. Lets try and get some facts before making decisions.
-Doug-
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 5:59 PM Kenny Richards <richark@gmail.com <mailto:richark@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just my $0.02 - but if the camera was hit by lightning, it needs to be replaced. It will always be iffy now...
Sent via radio waves!
On Aug 8, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Rob Salsgiver <rob@nr3o.com <mailto:rob@nr3o.com>> wrote:
Rob,
Do you know what kind of cable it was?
Rob S
*From:*PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org <mailto:psdr-bounces@hamwan.org>] *On Behalf Of *Rob Martin via PSDR *Sent:* Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:36 PM *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring *Subject:* [HamWAN PSDR] East Tiger – PTZ Camera
The PTZ camera at ETiger has been unreliable for some time.
Rich (KF7BJI) and I were at the site yesterday (2020-08-07), and now I can fill in some of the details.
The camera is located about three-quarters of the way up the tower used by the SeaTac Repeater Association. This tower is about 50m away from the ETiger HamWAN site. STRA uses the callsign W7WWI on most of its repeaters.
The POE power supply and the Cat5 cable up the tower have been damaged by a lightning strike.
The power supply needs to be replaced.
The Cat5 cable has water inside the jacket, something that went unnoticed until the damaged Ethernet connector was cut off. Water dripped out, lots of it. Most of the cable runs tight against the tower, and I speculate that the outer jacket was punctured by the lightning.
I am hoping that the camera itself may still be functional. Despite the above problems, there were occasions when images could be recovered. If the power to the camera was disconnected for an hour or so, the camera worked for a few minutes after restart.
The repair will involve a tower climb to replace the cable. Unfortunately we will have to open the camera’s sealed enclosure to access the cable end.
We hope to have this work done soon. No promises!
Rob K7QJ
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